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Here is the link to my latest attempt at changing my neighbor's thinking...
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Last edited by DaveS on 01/27/10, 8:12 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Comes up 404. |
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_________________ namaste |
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More good local news about the people covering the news from a small public radio station that just hired a second full-time journalist. Yea! you go KDNK!
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Well done, DaveS, a very eloquent and cogent editorial. Your publication is a gem throughout and I congratulate and thank you for all the trouble you have taken. |
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Parviz,
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DaveS wrote:
Writing of assholes... NPR reporting from Haiti today, lets see if I can remember; the reporter was telling us about the water truck that arrived, and that it was the first FREE water that residents had access to since the earthquake. The reporter, in typical corporate ass-speak , rushed right over the "free" water which make me wonder who would be charging for water? If it were the local peons I'm sure the reporter would have pointed-out the evil of their profiteering, and since he didn't, it makes me wonder, who's the jerk charging for H2O? Why ? DaveS I saw something on Euronews that spoke to that. there are haitians selling water. one local man said that it cost 10 dollars for a glad bag full of water. some germans who were there to set up a water purification plant required people to bring their own buckets for filling and had stopped handing out plastic bottles for that very reason.....people were walking a few blocks and selling it. there are some very poor people there and high morals don't last long when you are hungry. |
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Yeah, I understand about how people take advantage of each other. It's sad that an island is having a hard time providing water to the citizens. Sad that there is always so many greedy people looking to benefit from tragic events.
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Hey Dave - the paper is excellent! I briefly considered moving to the North Fork five or six years ago and spent a little time in some of those towns sussing out some possibilities...Hotchkiss, Paonia; turned out not to be the right time for me.
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Another outstanding Chris Hedges' column:
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Maxcrat-
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After listening to Jake Diliberto of "Veterans for Rethinking Afghanistan" give us his thoughts on Afghanistan (listen to link below), I've come to realize that Afghan tribal rights are equivalent to American states' rights. So I think it's ironic that most Americans, who favor our war in Afghanistan, tend to be right wingers, who also tend to be strong advocates for states' rights, but they'd rather see Afghanistan have a strong central government than a bunch of various tribal governments, which are nothing more than Afghanistan's version of our state governments. And so, I think this reinforces the notion that warmongering right wingers are such bigots that they view Afghans as not being human enough and thus not being worthy enough to be allowed tribal rights.
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Last edited by Cynthia on 01/27/10, 1:05 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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_________________ Cynthia |
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Here is a very sad, sad story... just damning about the true cost of war:
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Good article you wrote there Dave, food for thoughts. In true wordsmith fashion, always a pleasure reading your observations. Quote: Right, but what we have to keep in mind is that these turds in DC are re-elected, by us, our neighbors, friends. Time after time. There is a certain truth to the proverb that in a democracy ‘People get the government they deserve.’ Lets take the current banking crisis for example, when you think about it, why should politicians try to regulate banks, if they don’t do it they still got nothing to fear, no consequences, for themselves I mean. We vote them back in over and over again, our society too incoherent and splintered, gays v straights, singles v families, old v. young, smokers v non-smokers, etc, to agree on a defensible line, leaving our society incapable of flushing out the turds as you so aptly put it.
It leaves us with 70 years of a backed-up sewer system we call the Federal Government to unclog. As we know, some of the turds filling the tank are big and fresh, some aren’t so fresh, and maybe even bigger. If Obama would be serious about putting Wall Street banks back in their place, he’d nationalise the Fed. But instead his government is largely made up of bankers, Goldman Sachs cohorts mainly, so this piece of theater we get to see of him about how he will come down hard on banks is astonishing, comedy gold. When things went pear shaped in 2008, I don’t think Lehman Bros was a bank, neither was Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns, Goldman, Morgan, AIG or Fannie and Freddie. He totally misses the point, and yet congress claps like trained seals after every empty phrase he comes up with in his sotu address, pathetic. On top of that, the SCOTUS lifted any restrictions on how much corporations can “invest” in their favorite politicians, so Obama can suggest as much as he wants, money and its masters will be writing the rules from now on even more so than they already did. But hey, as you wrote, all of this is just history repeating. I suppose its time for a revolution, it would at least be a fun way to go out. Man, it's 2 in the morning, time to turn in. |
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Juan,
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DaveS wrote:
Times have changed so much, that instead of petitioning government to change policy, we might achieve our goals quicker by lobbying the corporations directly. DaveS some have used this tactic already. there have been some selective boycotts but it gets harder to know who you are actually hurting anymore. if you destroy one corporation, you are probably ruining lives other than the ones you intended to. I guess the old saying of act local - think global would apply. that gets hard to put into practice because it is very often more expensive to buy locally when you can get stuff so cheap at Walmart. and it would be nice to be able to count on reciprocity but as long as people think they have to do it alone and have this "screw you, I got mine" attitude, it will be difficult to move forward. still, rather than electing representatives who will represent the corps at taxpayer expense, we should just tear away the facade...like Okie wrote in his "SCotUS grants robots Personhood Status" piece |
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I can't seem to make the forum feedback forum show up in recent posts, so here is the link
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David, DoS, I think you are dead right with your reference to consumer boycotts being a powerful measure to get corporations attention. Would people lose their jobs? Possible, but if you work for a bastard company you kind of asked for it. At the same time, companies who act ethically respectable will get more business in turn and they’ll be hiring.
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And not to dismiss the ignorance of the electorate, but I also question if the system hasn't been 'gamed'? The system’s been gamed alright, only possible though coz the electorate is ignorant. Its not a matter of x and y, but x because of y. The system could be rigged to what ever degree they want, if the electorate wouldn’t play along like sheep, the wealthtocracy’s game would be up. When asked every couple of years who we want to rob us for the next few years, Twiddledee or Tweedledum, people always pick their favourite. The whole charade would fall over if we would just tell’em to get fucked. What country has US democracy produced? A nation with the highest incarceration rate in the world, some 750 people for every 100’000 citizens, compared to 93 in Germany for example. How can I take Obama or any other US politician serious when they wander the earth making the US out to be a role model for other nations? In my book the US is on par with Indonesia. I believe the saying goes ‘you can tell a society from the way it treats its prisoners’. Lets see, hmmm, incarcerating people without trial, running secret prisons, handing over prisoners to countries who knowingly torture, torturing others themselves, not supplying legal representation, putting people sometimes for years on end in isolation cells, lousy medical care for detainees, putting child criminals away for life, often in adult jails, unwarranted violence by correction officers such as use of pepper spray, shooting inmates at short range with rubber bullets, chaining people to the floor. The list goes on. What exactly it’ll take for the US population to gain consciousness and rid themselves of the leeches I don’t know. My impression is that although by now the vast majority of people has a hunch that something ain’t right, but have too much invested in the system to risk digging deeper. Just don’t rattle the cage. It’s not just in the US mind you, here in Australia or Europe for that matter most consumers and TV owners are also conditioned beyond hope, they’ll make their tick always in the same box, come what may, often following a family tradition. As long as they have bread and games, all is well. For a revolution to occur you gotta either take away the bread, like in France, or the games like in Iran. Quote:
Let's hope it remains a 'cold' revolution and doesn't go 'hot'... I'm in no hurry to get shot, tortured, hung or otherwise made to realize that my beliefs are not in line with the rulers... Well, one day, when we can’t look away any longer while our governments shoot, torture or hang people overseas coz they don’t want to follow US rules, we might have to make a stand, turn on the heat. I’ve always been a firm believer in the motto that it’s better to burn out than to fade away…. I agree however that we shouldn’t have to risk our own lives for goodness to win the battle. Humans are predictable, easily manipulated and led by the nose. This fact, a main pillar in our system’s design, can be used just the same to see mankind move the other way. As we know, all it takes is money. And that’s precisely the angle with which we have to attack the system, its own weapon, money. I think I’ve written a lengthy post once back at the Moon about how if just 1 million people (that’s 1 in 300) in the US chips in every month 50 bucks to run a Wake Up America fund, we would have the funds needed to finance and engineer a peaceful yet convincing revolution which not only will challenge the plutocrats, but eventually force them onto their knees. People united, can never be defeated. We have the power, all we have to do is use it. What are we? Chicken? |
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Juan,
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“O gentlemen, the time of life is short! (…) An if we live, we live to tread on kings” And if we live, we live to tread on kings... gives me friggin' goosestep bumps on me arms mateys. But I think, feel and know there's a way to get 'er done that doesn't include weapons... we're sorely outnumbered and outgunned in that department. The world is full of psychopaths willing to do anything as long as they can claim they were just 'following orders' – what a fucking copout. I don't think we should roll-over on our backs, but I also don't think it's in our interest to even think of violence... trust me,. there is going to be plenty hurtin' regardless of our intentions. The problem with violence is it rarely reaches the level of authority it would need to for 'punishment'. Rather it is just more interesting rat fights the leaders watch, sipping their sparkling wine and laughing. It wouldn't be that hard to make life really difficult for the PTB, but it is going to take more hungry people than we have to make it happen. I imagine with a few thousand people it would be easy to engage in a mass protest outside the airports in places like aspen, jackson hole, martha's vineyard... any of the small airports that service the rich and richer... this would be a good, inexpensive, and probably effective first volley to fire in this fight. What good is a Gulf V if you don't have anyplace to land? Hell, any group action that would close the doors to the playgrounds of the rich would be quite a blow... just think of all the unemployed trustfunder ski instructors who'd be bitching at mommy and daddy (this alone might make it a worthwhile endeavor) Not to mention all the silent dump trucks, cranes, bulldozers and other assorted implements used to destroy land which is then polluted with more trophy homes. I posted a call for action from rense.com at the open thread. DaveS |
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